I have a problem with the name of the tribe -- "Great Again"... Why do you believe that Northeastern Ohio isn't great now?
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Re: Implications of the Tribe Name: Great Again
Wed, March 3, 2004 - 9:12 AMI named the Tribe "Great Aga!n" for three reasons: (1) The theme has been in the news lately with the area's foundation's "Fund For The Future." (2) With the PeeDee's "Quiet Crisis" series I wanted to make the region "Great Again" (present tense) in the eyes of the beholder. (3) Admitedly there are problems which are hindering our full potential, so I wanted to highlight the discussion of what is really needed to make our region even "greater," and "great again" in the eyes of those who do, or would do, business here.
Personally the region is a great place to live -- and i've been pretty much everywhere. Beats the hell out of places like Portland, Oregon.
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Wed, March 3, 2004 - 11:37 AMIt's not that I dislike it here, but more like there are other places that I like much better. Everyone is different though, and to some, this area is probably tops.
I'm in the Youngstown-Warren area, of which I think I am the only Tribester. In my personal opinion my area isn't "great", but just merely "okay". -
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Re: Implications of the Tribe Name: Great Again
Wed, March 3, 2004 - 12:32 PMWhat would it take to make it "great" in your opinion?
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Re: Implications of the Tribe Name: Great Again
Wed, March 3, 2004 - 1:47 PMThanks for the clarification.
I agree that there are many things that could be made better in our region (lower taxes, less patronage, less corruption, etc., etc.).
But many other places are worse -- much worse. In this vein -- I think NE Ohio is one of the better kept secrets. Why let the secret out? -
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Re: Implications of the Tribe Name: Great Again
Wed, March 3, 2004 - 2:02 PMPerhaps we will need to to stimulate our economy, so things like taxes could be lower? -
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Wed, March 3, 2004 - 2:17 PMWell, I think it would be the other way around.
A real simplified version: Less corruption and less patronage leads to lower taxes. Lower taxes leads to growth (like companies locating here).
I did an analysis and posted it in the CAUSE tribe. Basically, the taxes are lower in Seattle and NYC (than in NE Ohio). So, I argue that growth is lower in NEOHLAND.
This point, of course, doesn't imply that NEOHLAND isn't great today, though... As a local culture, we seem to like higher taxes and the government services that are provided with those tax dollars. -
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Re: Implications of the Tribe Name: Great Again
Wed, March 3, 2004 - 4:13 PMI think Issue 31 is a good case to point you make. Why is it that we think government, e.g., our taxes, should subsidize everything? What's a matter with businesses cutting into their profits to foot the bill for economic development? If economic development is so good, then we can assume, can we not, that economic development will in time increase the bottom line? Thus, businesses are only investing in their future if they would foot the bill.
And the arts, I have seen elsewhere what public funding of the arts can do to grassroot artist. There is a place for pubic art, and perhaps that should be paid for by the public, but let it end there.
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Thu, March 4, 2004 - 11:25 AMI agree on many levels.
I do believe that Arts has impact on the community, and more importantly, the creativity within that community. This is true today and historically...
Indeed, Europe's Renissance started in Florence with vast investments in Art and Architecture... However, I note that the art was funded by two competing and rival families.
So, if we want Art to flourish here, we should consider what factors drive such private contributions.
I assert that relatively low tax structure and a relatively little "red tape" are both prerequisites. I am reminded of Peter Lewis' proposal to build a very tall (60+) building in some sort of art deco style (open air through building; twists; etc) over top of Route 2, in downtown Cleveland... City Hall created so much Red Tape -- he decided not to build such a stunning building.
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